Patrol ship HMS Tyne monitored two warships and an intelligence gathering vessel as they carried out replenishment operations with their supporting tanker. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. There are only 4 sets available for the Type 45s taken off the Type 22 Batch 3s. They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev. We live and learn. These Russian landing ships are probably headed into the Black Sea for possible amphibious ops against Ukraine. And its theseRead more . Europe must now start taking this threat seriously, re-arm and be prepared to fight. It said: "The crew of the frigate 'Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov' conducted an air defense exercise in the Norwegian Sea. I suspect if we dont show strength and unity now the fighting will inevitably come to us. Meanwhile, in the Black Sea, the Kasimov antisubmarine ship 'successfully destroyed' air and sea targets by artillery fire in storm conditions, in a naval exercise. He said the countries were 'united in their resolve' against Russian aggression. In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. The 210-sailor warship left the port of Murmansk in northwestern Russia on January 6 for the Lofoten Islands in the Norwegian Sea. , updated The comments below have not been moderated, By Well the attacks came from Yemen itself as did missiles over night last night they arent coming from Iranian soil. It could be solved if Ukraine finally implemented the Minsk Protocol it signed in 2015. Really poor analysis of a foreign state. But what if Russias is using the same effect in reverse. Tabloid sensationalism Im afraid Tommo. But the virus restrictions have meant few have been trained and tested to replace them. WW1 & WW2 were not just ended by fighting but the economic ability of Germany to out produce the allies. Will it damage to a ship? Turkey's Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said on Saturday that the death toll in Turkey from last month's massive earthquakes has to 45,968. First Sea Lord Admiral Tony Radakin said: "This is why the Royal Navy is at sea every day, protecting the UK and our interests. I somehow doubt it. Food, the are a exporter of food. Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. EDIT spelling corrections. As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. Putin might be doing maskirovka. Yes we cant come to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way but this should be it now as far as the Baltics are concerned- reinforce the fuck out of them so they know what surrounded really means and, I hate to say this but trump was right the Germans are useless spineless allies and they dont deserve the support they have now, relocate all forces to Poland and the Baltics where it really matters. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. The only ones being childish are the politicians, the oil industry and those that choose to ignore reality. Idiocy. READ NEXT:Army poised to send 'game-changing' tanks to Ukraine to smash RussiaBefore and after maps show Russia's territorial losses in UkraineUK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontlineCleverly under pressure over German spy - Britain battles 'silent war'Putin replaces 'General Armageddon' after three months in top job. When you consider bang for buck (price index), how long until Chinas defense budget alone will be equal? The British Army for starters needs a serious shake up and recapitalisation. Missile attacks would take advantage of Ukraine's weaker anti-missile defences. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. The Coast Guard said the ship is . 36 minutes ago. I'm sure there will be no decision about [Ukraine] without [Ukraine],' he wrote. Not many decent investigative journos around now. Once there they re establish the picture. This is a US created crisis for US domestic reasons. Earlier this year, Vladimir Putin said the 135-meter-long frigate would sail for the Atlantic, the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea with the latest generation hypersonic cruise missiles on board. I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. Im not sure to be honest. On Wednesday, the State Departmentapprovedthe transfer of U.S.-made missiles from Baltic NATO members to Ukraine. Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. Concussion will do too much damage. Im afraid Martlet wouldnt scratch the paint on a Kirov, whilst the Wildcat wouldnt get within range to launch kinetics before being eliminated by the Grumble. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. the Poles keep shtum about their involvement, unlike the Balts who declare it openly. NSM has a IIR seeker so it can discriminate but the target still needs to be there when it arrives to be discriminated against! As they have plenty of gear around Ukraine already it makes sense that at least some of the 6 are bound for Tartus. Were you not barred a couple of years ago from this site? Itll make Snatch Landrover fiasco look trivial. Agree, that is the most likely route. On Monday, two C-17 transporters left the UK with 2,000 armour-piercing missile systems and soldiers to teach Ukraine's forces how to use them. Or how much BS the kremlin comes up with, I think RT chat forum is your home you have many friends there Ivan lol. I cant imagine we would though, as it could cause an incident in the channel. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. Russia's warns Britain over navy confrontation, Raab: Russia being 'predictably inaccurate', Britain says it will always defend seafaring rights, Russia says London is sowing barefaced lies. Several Latvians were arrested when they returned from fighting in the Ukraine they had been on the Russian side! ", DON'T MISS:Vladimir Putin braced for Kremlin 'ultra-nationalists' mutiny[REPORT] West puzzled after Putin evacuates warships and submarines from region [REPORT] UK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontline[REPORT]. I was just using it as an example of how the presence of a capable foreign military in a potential war theatre could complicate strategies. 'How can we be given a chance to defend ourselves if you're not giving weapons? Ok we fought for repression of all subjugated Countries including the German folk who were under the heel of the Nazi jackboot. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. You guys need more ships me thinks . The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. There is also a chance of that senario, Trouble is it is Trumps policies towards NATO ( even threatening to leave it) and distaste for Europe that has given the impetus to Putin to try this on. Putin cannot afford a hot war even less than we can. Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! An good opportunity knoks coming soon, to sink the Russian fleets in the Med, lol!! Er, US forces are in Poland and no doubt in the Ukraine. NOTAMs will clear seaways fast, whilst the Falklands demonstrated the potency of AsUW back then. Mr Scholz told reporters it was 'clear that there will be a high price to pay and that everything will have to be discussed should there be a military intervention in Ukraine'. Most of its armour is 25+ years old, its tube artillery is a similar age and is seriously out ranged by modern Russian systems and they have just announced a cut in numbers to about 75,000..! See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. He said Moscow could try to seize Ukrainian coastal areas on the Sea of Azov, creating a land bridge from the Russian city of Rostov through Donbass to Crimea, adding: 'That would put the Ukrainian government under a lot of pressure.'. I would have personally expected more from an accomplished person such as Merkel and her predecessors in making sure there is no reliance on anything from a potential enemy, but as the Germans can be smart, they can be equally daft. We use your sign-up to provide content in ways you've consented to and to improve our understanding of you. Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. When the world is fully and singularly looking at that location. A publicly available U.S. intelligence document said Russia could stage an invasion this month with up to 100 battalion tactical groups (BTGs) or some 175,000 troops. They are believed to be somewhere around Yemen at the moment. 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. Asking whether Australia will sell us a handful of their Block II Harpoons; the practical solution to the (cancelled) interim AShM requirement? Putin praised the ship's strength as it sailed off on its journey, saying: "The frigate Admiral Gorshkov is embarking on a long sea voyage. Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. Stand by to be surprised. Inspite of their age, the Russian Ropucha class have been fitted with AK-630 CIWS, easily as good as Phalanx. (A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. If Biden was was standing up to Putin hed use some of that military grunt they have. Iran has been poking the region with a pointy stick for years now just to see what sort of rea tin they would get in return. "It is a hypersonic sea-based system - [and the vessel has other] latest-generation weapons. NATOs multinational battlegroup in Bulgaria reached full operational capability on Wednesday. Supplying intel and light weapons will not change the outcome much , Russia will win regardless of the losses shell receive. Yes, have to agree, Gallipoli wasnt one of our finest ever ventures. As this is different from Davids comment below Ill go away and try to get some evidence. UK politicians have been cutting our forces (numerically) once or twice a decade since the end of the Korean War, ie over the last 70 years, not just the last 30 years. Going after the Ukraine neatly side steps the maritime flank to some extent. Several European nations have now moved to bolster Natos military deployment in eastern Europe. "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. russian dockyards will need to build more tugs. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. if 25% could actually get out of harbour before breaking down! Where do they and other countries replace it from? The White Housewarned yesterday the situation was 'extremely dangerous' and that Moscow could launch an attack 'at any point'. So many completely underestimate the complexity and difficulties of achieving the kill chain with Anti ship missiles. ', She said it mimicked the playbook used when Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula, and included social media disinformation to show Kiev as the instigator of violence. The N Koreans are starving again. We have got troops there, albeit only a small number in a training and advisory role still complicates the plot for Putin. Er, as infantry, I had all of 9 seconds according to the briefing table on the Majors desk reading down the list and RMP were given 36 hours; and the rest is history. Giles said some scenarios could involve long-range missile attacks or cyber-attacks targeting critical infrastructure. Thats if of the few Astutes we have arent already chasing their own Oscars or Yasen. Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? The Sentinel 2 satellite image, taken at 11:47 local time, shows at least 14 vessels. Nope me neither. Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. Hi Ron. 'The current deployments are versatile. Russia has accused Kyiv of harbouring plans to retake the region by force, something Ukraine denies. The Marshal Ustinov, a large cruise missile ship, is one of a. Browse an unrivalled portfolio of real-time and historical market data and insights from worldwide sources and experts. When we need European Allies like France and Germany, where are they. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. You must have access to a higher level of intel than me then. Its what happens after Russia invades that know one is sure about. Like wise the Danse could blockade the Baltic as well. Ill think you well find Im disagreeing with a nut job who thinks Salisbury was a UK government conspiracy lol. That basically, means the UK has signalled that it is disengaging from effective land operations in a NATO context. And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. This was at the request of the Australian Government. Will it would be nice not to hear from that stroppy self-important brat anymore, I doubt your proposal will solve either of the threats we face; Russian aggression and climate-climate. A Slava Class cruiser isnt going to be worried by any Wildcat, whilst ROEs mean that by the time Astutes have surfaced to receive comms the shooting has started and finished. The fighting units the Russians have deployed are professional soldiers not conscrips. They would be very worried about Wildcat with Sea Venom & Martlet, and Merlin Mk2 with Stingray capability. He wasnt kissing his backside so much when he scrapped the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty! NATO Aid to the Ukraine is not some knee jerk reaction to current events,there have been initiatives underway since independence in 1991,and especially since 2014,in the case of the UK under Operation Orbital. It was/would cost a big chunk of their budget to keep them operational and safe. In a hastily arranged trip, Secretary of State Antony Blinken was set to arrive in Kiev last night to meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. If you mean why T26 isnt fitted with ASROC, then that has been explained at length by many other commentators, and with very good reason. Seems a bit left-field but the Swedes seem to be taking things seriously. But more significantly, the conclusion was the Belgrano would have been pummelled by the sheer weight of accurate fire that both Blake and Tiger could put down. Biden is shaping up to be just as bad and hopefully another 1-term wonder. Just to keep us on our toes. Test capabilities. I thought you might of recovered somewhat, after that meltdown you had a couple of years ago? We are now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack on Ukraine.'. Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps. Biden-BIG disappointment. But at various times four navy frigates were deployed. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? Britain's BBC released footage from the ship showing a Russian coast guard warning that he would shoot if the British ship did not change course. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. If the US had done this early enough the Russians would have back off. As for Corbyn and Johnson, I generally agree I just wish people could see its kind of theRead more , Hi Ron-no need to apologise, I enjoy your posts and know that things for all of us can get robust at times. Push buttons. Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. We need to re-evaluate our position in the world, step back, calculate the cost of the CASD add that amount to a Defence budget set at 3%. The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. The SPEAR seems limited against a target like a ship. And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. British Defence Minister Ben Wallace accused Russian pilots of conducting unsafe aircraft manoeuvres 500 feet (152 m) above the warship. Several missiles now fit the bill, but you still need to get round the issue of targeting information before you send it/them on their way. 'Grateful for [US's] political & security support. Special Forces, or a couple of thousand US Marines or Paratroopers. Meanwhile, in a show of support for former Soviet republics, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace yesterday visited Latvia. A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. Commander Ed Moss-Ward, HMS Portland's commanding officer, said: "Escorting warships in UK territorial waters and the adjacent sea areas is routine activity for the Royal Navy. I was considering calling them coffins but ill go with obsolete. Clearly I could be wrong on this. Tensions escalated at the end of last week after American officials claimed to have information that Moscow had deployed resources for a 'false flag' attack. And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. They keep Russia's options open and therefore keep the defender guessing,' said Keir Giles, an Associate Fellow at Chatham House. At this distance we could also send a cutting out party/borders Im sure! Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. Donald Trump says only he can prevent a Third World War, China sets modest economic growth target of about 5 per cent for 2023, Police granted extra stop-and-search powers after schoolboy stabbed, Prince Harry: A lot of us in Army didnt necessarily agree or disagree with war in Afghanistan, Rishi Sunak to host Coronation Big Lunch at Downing Street, Project Fear authors discussed when to deploy new Covid variant. The Royal Navy has kept close watch as four Russian ships sheltered from rough weather in the seas off the east coast of Scotland. Or Major joining Carlisle, Osbornes 8 or so jobs, Miliband joining that charity or Blair on his 1M a year+ all for following the US line? And the capitol protests are nothing to do with this. View our online Press Pack. It was not immediately clear what equipment would be arriving today. The Ivan Gren-class can transport 40 BTRs or IFVs and 300 troops. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Despite funding concerns Type 32 Frigate still planned, European deployment successfully completed by Royal Navy, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ , NATO battlegroup in Bulgaria reaches full capability, BBC announces new aircraft carrier documentary. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. Land, they have plenty. The Royal Navy said it is tracking the frigate and the tanker movements with an HMS Portland frigate, as it could carry what is considered to be one of the world's deadliest weapons. Ukraine didnt invent the weapons so im curious how much of them they could have used and ultimately maintained over time. Too many journalists sit at their desks googling news instead of getting off their backsides. The stark warning comes after two rounds of last ditch talks between the West and Russia failed to de-escalate the conflict which has threatened to bubble over since late last year. "We can appeal to common sense, demand respect for international law, and if that doesn't work, we can bomb," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Russian news agencies. LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the coast of Russia-annexed Crimea. I pray it doesnt happen, but sheer negligence in thisRead more . Later versions have much better electronics and sensors developed with Israel. Iv said all along all the US has to do is move over a few B52s B1s and B2 to UK on a routine training mission. Mr Putin is aware that as Ukraine does not belong to Nato, there will be no military response by Western states. Whilst we (NATO) wont be firing shots, theres a massive amount that can be done with regards to intelligence and weapon supply that, arguably should have been done a month ago. Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. The Army will undergo its most comprehensive modernisation since the 1980sIt will experiment its way to robotic and autonomous capabilities. and Also the Blockade the Atlantic Iceland gap. Plus, RN experience has taught us we use helicopters in the littoral with Stingray, Martlet and Sea Venom, and hunter killer boats for larger warships. Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts. Ireland's defence minister says Russian tests off the coast are unwanted, but cannot be stopped. Lauren Lewis For Mailonline I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. good job that idiot trump doesnt have access to the red button or the west would be rubble. Mr Prystaiko also slammed Berlin for pushing ahead with the controversial Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline that will circumvent Ukraine. Some showed messages saying:'Be afraid and expect the worst.'. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. Should be a 10 year rule everything gets stored for at least 10 years in case needed. A lot older but the modern B52 is like triggers broom. 2014-2021 UK Defence Journal, all rights reserved. But T31 isnt designed or intended to be a high end anti submarine Frigate, more a general purpose Frigate for more day to day operations ,anti piracy ect but capable enough to operate as part of a task group. Global Britain is an illusion. A Ministry of Defence Spokesperson told me: As part of a unified response with our allies, the Royal Navy are monitoring the presence of Russian Ships as they transit through the English Channel. They hit targets of a 'simulated enemy' in 'large-scale' exercises involving 500 military personnel. US is now flying in warlike items to Ukraine. The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. Etc, etc. Something will give as you cannot maintain an army at this sort of readiness indefinitely. HMSs Dragon and Defender never had Harpoon fitted. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. Working hard for your Master Putin, Hay! That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. "As I said, it has no equivalent in any country in the world. A source familiar with the Russian Defence Ministry's thinking said this was the most likely scenario if Moscow decided to attack, but that he was unaware of any such decision. Russia said it had ventured as far as 3 km (2 miles) into Russian waters near Cape Fiolent, a landmark on Crimea's southern coast near the port of Sevastopol, headquarters of the Russian Navy's Black Sea fleet. Is not the opposite more true? Resources, they have plenty of their own. SAMs/ASMs/AAMs mostly new plus a handfull of big ticket items but the vast majority are just 40 year old designs with a new paint job and go faster stripes. Australia just signed an agreement with UK Defense minister to dedicate Wharf and logistics to readily accommodate Royal Navy ships basing them selves there . The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned.
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